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while the talking heads on tv go on about tax cuts for the rich and we get them, will we not get them, had is about spending and have to address spending now. >> when you read his moats, the -- outline that he sends to harry reid, he says the government is spending $100 billion more per month than what it brings in. i mean, it is really incredible. what does this mean for the fiscal cliff discussions? >> well, i don't think it really means a whole lot. i think it is -- sort of the white house's way, treasurer's way, of putting extra pressure on the people in the building behind us. by the way, none of them are there. i'm not sure that's really going to work, frankly. and -- i -- john, our colleague john harwood is exactly right. this is not a surprise. we knew this was coming. the question that it is, you know, three days -- thee business days, as you say before, the actual deadline itself, that's disconcerting. but -- again, it is not surprising. i don't think it has any -- will peak the negotiations at all, frankly. not at all. >> what about the secretary's use of this phrase -- the
while the talking heads on tv go on about tax cuts for the rich and we get them, will we not get them, had is about spending and have to address spending now. >> when you read his moats, the -- outline that he sends to harry reid, he says the government is spending $100 billion more per month than what it brings in. i mean, it is really incredible. what does this mean for the fiscal cliff discussions? >> well, i don't think it really means a whole lot. i think it is -- sort of the...
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care tax. the occupy movement will not return with the same strength, but talk of fat cats and p will iticrats in the media will drive the wealthy further into hiding and reduce conspicuous consumption. the rich will put less money into u.s. stocks and more into assets. funded by the overseas rich with some homes selling for more than $100 million. luxury spending will remain weak largely because of weakness in china. bright spots will be high end luxuries and experiences like travel and entertainment. wealth will become quieter. call it stealth wealth. the big spending in big luxuries will be behind closed doors and kitchens like this could become the new status symbol. >> du that report from your kitchen, is that how that -- >> i didn't -- no, i didn't see that. i don't remember him being there. no, our american-made company today makes what is considered to be the most popular snack food in the world. rob is cogoed founder of dock popcorn. >> hi, guys. it's actually -- >> i always thought or
care tax. the occupy movement will not return with the same strength, but talk of fat cats and p will iticrats in the media will drive the wealthy further into hiding and reduce conspicuous consumption. the rich will put less money into u.s. stocks and more into assets. funded by the overseas rich with some homes selling for more than $100 million. luxury spending will remain weak largely because of weakness in china. bright spots will be high end luxuries and experiences like travel and...
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taxes or prospect of lower bonuses? >> i think both. eccentric, bodes to spending here in the northeast. as long as the economy holds up in terms of the markets and home prices and those type of things, again, the consumer has always been about the ability to spend versus willingness to. >> so which are the retailers, tom, in your opinion that could be hit the hardest? luxury obviously runs the gamut. >> yeah, absolutely. i think in terms of the middle tier consumer, we still haven't seen them come back in terms of the aspirational. in the high end, if we see us going over the fiscal cliff, like we saw in the recession, there will definitely be a pullback. maybe less units purchased. but there's still on the margin impacted consumer. but in terms of the middle income consumer, that could be impacted the most. >> talk about the broader picture here. i appreciate we're getting articles continually out of china suggesting that the new regime is going to cut down on excessive displays of wealth. but the middle classes are s
taxes or prospect of lower bonuses? >> i think both. eccentric, bodes to spending here in the northeast. as long as the economy holds up in terms of the markets and home prices and those type of things, again, the consumer has always been about the ability to spend versus willingness to. >> so which are the retailers, tom, in your opinion that could be hit the hardest? luxury obviously runs the gamut. >> yeah, absolutely. i think in terms of the middle tier consumer, we still...
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the end of the payroll tax cut and the impact of the hike in the minimum tax on january 1st. over the weekend, we did hear from some republican moderates who say it may in fact be time to make some kind of a move. >> the president's statement is right, no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody. but i'm not in the majority in the united states senate and he's the president of the united states. >> now the focus shifted to mitch mcconnell. the senate taking the lead on a compromise with democrats, and something that can get some support among house republicans. carl? >> hampton, thank you very much. hampton pearson in washington. >> the gift that keeps on giving. we're talking about market wisdom. what you need to know ahead of the opening bell. and whether you're a holiday traveler or investor, you want to hear about the state of the airline industry. let's take a look at futures one last time before the holiday shortened session. about ten points down on the dow. ally bank. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, tho
the end of the payroll tax cut and the impact of the hike in the minimum tax on january 1st. over the weekend, we did hear from some republican moderates who say it may in fact be time to make some kind of a move. >> the president's statement is right, no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody. but i'm not in the majority in the united states senate and he's the president of the united states. >> now the focus shifted to mitch mcconnell....
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raising taxes. we'll have to get serious. your guys just gave us, it was depressing enough to go out and have two double cheeseburgers and a milk shake. it was awful, and it's about time. we need a plus. we need something to charge up this economy, and getting this done. robert zelic on our board on the campaign to fix the debt, you know, the former head of the world bank, he said america is one good debt deal away from being the dominant economy for the next 25 years in the entire world. >> so you believe it's going town lock -- taking away that uncertainty is going to unlock cap "x" and hiring and consumers to open up their wallet? you think it will make that much of a difference? >> i believe it will. how many other arrows do we have in our quiver? >> there's an optimistic thought. better have another cheeseburger, governor. good to see you, again. thank you. >> good to see you guys. >> let's fix this. >> yeah. wouldn't that be nice. i'm the optimistic one on this show, and i'm starting to lose t
raising taxes. we'll have to get serious. your guys just gave us, it was depressing enough to go out and have two double cheeseburgers and a milk shake. it was awful, and it's about time. we need a plus. we need something to charge up this economy, and getting this done. robert zelic on our board on the campaign to fix the debt, you know, the former head of the world bank, he said america is one good debt deal away from being the dominant economy for the next 25 years in the entire world....
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hour, dividend taxes are not taxed at 15% but are double taxed. companies have to pay taxes on their profits before distributing them as dividends. dividends are double taxed and will almost be triple taxed unless we do something in washington. all those million of dividend investors should be really angry. bad for them but it's bad for the economy. >> realistically though could we really expect it to go to 39.6, there's got to be some compromise in there somewhere. i wouldn't think the republicans would let it go much higher. >> you look at it. i don't think washington guess what this does. look at the effective rate. right now if i pay $1 as a public or private company and pay $1 a earnings as interest, it's taxed 18% higher effectively. >> right. >> so what does that do? that creates something called a debt bias. debt bias is bad for our economy. right now we have three things, too many debt in our economy, not enough job creation and need more income for retirees. tacking dividends is going to make all of those situations worse. >> to pare thi
hour, dividend taxes are not taxed at 15% but are double taxed. companies have to pay taxes on their profits before distributing them as dividends. dividends are double taxed and will almost be triple taxed unless we do something in washington. all those million of dividend investors should be really angry. bad for them but it's bad for the economy. >> realistically though could we really expect it to go to 39.6, there's got to be some compromise in there somewhere. i wouldn't think the...
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tax relief for a tax cut like he likes to. going over the cliff is the only way norquist controlled republicans are spared the wrath of grover which i believe having known grover for 35 years is indeed worse than the wrath of con. so if a deal is more likely, why sell now. legitimate question, ain't it. it could be the major reason we didn't sell-off. we rallied 7%. even if boehner's plan b won and president said that's legitimate stillborn and couldn't be considered serious. there's been little selling in the last few weeks despite how much politicians clearly loathe each other and couldn't have a pbr. i believe we can quick selling off. more and more people recognize we could go over the cliff. even if this is why we shouldn't sell. you can get an achievable goal of helping with tax breaks. it could be possible as soon as next week. remember, it isn't a cliff where you have a hard landing. it's more like a jump on a trampoline or a deep swimming pool where there's a recovery is almost a certainty although it could be like on
tax relief for a tax cut like he likes to. going over the cliff is the only way norquist controlled republicans are spared the wrath of grover which i believe having known grover for 35 years is indeed worse than the wrath of con. so if a deal is more likely, why sell now. legitimate question, ain't it. it could be the major reason we didn't sell-off. we rallied 7%. even if boehner's plan b won and president said that's legitimate stillborn and couldn't be considered serious. there's been...
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or have much of an impact as much as the investment related taxes will like when dividend taxes go to 44% automatically. >> yeah. >> which is going to happen when we go over the fiscal cliff. capital gains going up to ordinary income of 39.6. what would you say is a realistic level for those two taxes? >> well, i don't know. >> i mean once they get a deal. >> decide for us, quint. >> yeah. well, probably in the 40s right? i think ultimately -- >> 40s? that is going to be a problem for the market. >> yes, it is. that is why i think running out and hiding into dividend paying stock is not the answer. when this really sets in that we're not going to have a deal the market is going to come off. believe it or not when it comes off those are still the areas that i would look because where are you going to find, you know, an intel for example yielding 4.5%, loads of cash on the balance sheet, and even if it gets taken down under $20 a share, very healthy company, excellent dividend yield. >> yes. >> so i would rather have that even if i'm paying a higher tax on it than be sitting in cash yie
or have much of an impact as much as the investment related taxes will like when dividend taxes go to 44% automatically. >> yeah. >> which is going to happen when we go over the fiscal cliff. capital gains going up to ordinary income of 39.6. what would you say is a realistic level for those two taxes? >> well, i don't know. >> i mean once they get a deal. >> decide for us, quint. >> yeah. well, probably in the 40s right? i think ultimately -- >> 40s?...
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>> don't tax me. tax the guy behind the tree. that's what we're faced with. everybody wants to pay lower taxes and get more services if you're in defense, you say, we need the money. if you're in agriculture, you see we need subsidized crop insurance. where does it end? in montana, we've had eight years of -- they're not willing to do that in washington, d.c. they just kick the can down the road. >> what does it mean in terms of federal aid or reduction in federal aid if we go over the fiscal cliff and even if we don't go over the cliff, and they come up with a bandaid, you risk losing more federal aid down the road, don't you? >> no question about you. we're a rural state. montana is the size of pefl r. -- pennsylvania, new york. there are federal dollars that pay for maintaining those highways. you can't have a million people pay for all those highways because it connects the entire country. you have forest service, 30% of the land is owned by the federal government. so there's a lot of federal dollars that come to montana. that's part of the system. >> wha
>> don't tax me. tax the guy behind the tree. that's what we're faced with. everybody wants to pay lower taxes and get more services if you're in defense, you say, we need the money. if you're in agriculture, you see we need subsidized crop insurance. where does it end? in montana, we've had eight years of -- they're not willing to do that in washington, d.c. they just kick the can down the road. >> what does it mean in terms of federal aid or reduction in federal aid if we go over...
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taxes should not go up for 98% of the people. you have wilful minorities in this house and in the senate, who want to make certain taxes stay lower for the top 2%. in a real world, most of the time you'd be able to resolve that. it's the really strange fiscal politics of washington that's been doctrinaire on the revenue side. we all understood we have spending to balance. the president put $400 billion of reductions in medicare savings on the table. the majority of americans, including romney voters understand the obvious, that is revenues have to be part of the equation. this is a question -- why can't we do it is the head scratching question for most people. it's really part of the institution institutional paralysis of congress, you have a filibuster that enables the minority to work their will and stop even consideration of legislation. in the house, the speaker has to bite the bullet and put on the floor a bill that's going to get significant democratic support and some republican support. that's the only way to do what the
taxes should not go up for 98% of the people. you have wilful minorities in this house and in the senate, who want to make certain taxes stay lower for the top 2%. in a real world, most of the time you'd be able to resolve that. it's the really strange fiscal politics of washington that's been doctrinaire on the revenue side. we all understood we have spending to balance. the president put $400 billion of reductions in medicare savings on the table. the majority of americans, including romney...
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j, for a long time, apple selling off because of tax selling. at this point, as we close the books on 2012 -- >> tax gain selling. >> exactly. can it be the fundamental story, finally catching up to apple? >> absolutely. and i think a lot of folks, you get that turnover because a lot of folks can get right back in, because, again, they don't have to worry about the work sale rule. they can get right back in. but nonetheless, it seems on every rally in the morning, melissa, it is hit by that tax gains selling that i'm talk about and perhaps those same folks are buying back into it in the afternoon, and then getting freaked out as the stock goes lower, into the end of the afternoon. so, whatever's going on in there, i like this story into 2013. i just don't like holding it now. i have no position in apple. >> josh brown, buyer or seller of apple? >> i'd be a buyer here. but i've been saying that since 560, 570. but i do think that the tax selling is having a huge impact on the stock. and i think the next earnings report, you probably would rather
j, for a long time, apple selling off because of tax selling. at this point, as we close the books on 2012 -- >> tax gain selling. >> exactly. can it be the fundamental story, finally catching up to apple? >> absolutely. and i think a lot of folks, you get that turnover because a lot of folks can get right back in, because, again, they don't have to worry about the work sale rule. they can get right back in. but nonetheless, it seems on every rally in the morning, melissa, it...
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they want to raise taxes on somebody. so is there any possibility that either side will budge on those two issues? >> we'll have to wait and see what happens. the president, as funny as it sounds, at the end of the press conference came out and said if the senate can't get this done, let's do the bare minimum, my plan and let's raise taxes on $250,000 and do that if you can't reach some other agreement. it's absurd on this. >> if there were real entitlement reform -- >> and there were real entitlement reform, would you be willing to raise taxes on anybody just so the democrats could save face and say they got a deal? >> it would have to be some pretty serious entitlement. >> like what? like what? >> we'll have to wait and see how that comes out. >> see, that's the problem? >> let's take the basics. you have food stamp issues with a lot of food stamp fraud that's out there and you have people certified to get food stamps and i don't have an issue with someone who has an actual need and qualifies for it. i have a real issue
they want to raise taxes on somebody. so is there any possibility that either side will budge on those two issues? >> we'll have to wait and see what happens. the president, as funny as it sounds, at the end of the press conference came out and said if the senate can't get this done, let's do the bare minimum, my plan and let's raise taxes on $250,000 and do that if you can't reach some other agreement. it's absurd on this. >> if there were real entitlement reform -- >> and...
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. >> it's been all about taxes. >> all about raising taxes. >> there's this obsession with raising taxes. >> it was to go after school lunches and elderly care, health care for poor kids and increased spending. >> no, no, no, they want entitlement reform, joy ann. why this obsession with cutting old people's medicare? >> it's not an obsession about cutting benefits to the elderly, joy ann. it's about reforming medicare over time so at some point in the future we don't tell an 80-year-old you know what? you're not going get the medicare cha you thought you would have. this is about not hurting the elderly. >> the republican solution is to hand 80-year-olds a voucher and saying good luck, go into the markets and see what you can get. >> 80-year-olds are not any part of it. they're 20, 30 years from now. the president's idea of spending cuts had to do with $700 billion worth of medicare cuts in the past two years ago. >> and paul ryan endorsed it. >> paul ryan endorsed it and that was in ryan's plan. thanks, guys. >> there was another surprise coming out of washington today. the unexpected
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, maybe even higher corporate taxes, lower government spending. i mean, that in and of itself is an austerity plan that we're waiting for, isn't it? >> i don't think it's necessarily austerity. the reductions in spending over time can happen over time, the way our government keeps track is over a decade. >> right. >> so we don't need to do it all today, and as far as higher taxes go, there's a group of people who will sign this pledge not to raise taxes, and, you know, more than two-thirds are millionaires who said, you know what, we'll pay more taxes because in the end analysis, the investment we would make in paying more in taxes to get the economy going will return in wealth very quickly if we get the economy back to where it should be. >> there's a very good article on cnbc.com about the possibility that congress might decide to start tax is employer-sponsored health insurance. do you think that's a possibility, and what impact would that have on you? >> everything needs to be on the table. if we're going to have a good solution that gets at o
, maybe even higher corporate taxes, lower government spending. i mean, that in and of itself is an austerity plan that we're waiting for, isn't it? >> i don't think it's necessarily austerity. the reductions in spending over time can happen over time, the way our government keeps track is over a decade. >> right. >> so we don't need to do it all today, and as far as higher taxes go, there's a group of people who will sign this pledge not to raise taxes, and, you know, more...
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the rest of our lives, we're going to be talking about the largest tax cut in history as the obama tax cuts. >> katie, maybe so, but i think the republicans have to be the retreat. in some sense, they'll take sola solace. i happen to think boehner had the least bad proposal, i'm sorry it got beaten down. will the republicans come back and vote for tax cuts in january? democrats sure will. >> well, that's certainly an option that's on the table and definitely makes their job easier with their constituents back home. but there's one thing we're forgetting here, republicans in general can still come back in the ten-day period we have before the fiscal cliff deadline and vote present and wash their hands clean of president obama's proposal and allow him to deal with the economic consequences of his plan. >> can i just add -- i'm sorry to jump in -- i'm sorry to adjust quick. can we stop saying it's ten days? it's three days. >> it is three days, that's correct. >> they're not coming back until wednesday. >> true. >> i think to katie's point. the thing i would say, though, i don't think tha
the rest of our lives, we're going to be talking about the largest tax cut in history as the obama tax cuts. >> katie, maybe so, but i think the republicans have to be the retreat. in some sense, they'll take sola solace. i happen to think boehner had the least bad proposal, i'm sorry it got beaten down. will the republicans come back and vote for tax cuts in january? democrats sure will. >> well, that's certainly an option that's on the table and definitely makes their job easier...
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and i didn't vote to raise your taxes. as simplistic as that is, i think it's true so i think they let us go over and then cut the taxes and they undo all the good the cliff could actually do. >> but there's no real spending cuts. that's part of the problem. it's all talk. there's no real cuts in the cliff. >> you guys sound like congress. keep on arguing behind the scenes. enjoy yourselves. thank you so much, michael. peter, you're sticking around. >>> meantime, the fiscal cliff may be a big deal but there is another threat out there which might be in the short term more risky. the container cliff. businesses up and down the eastern seaboard are bracing for a massive port showdown as unions threaten to strike and possibly shut down most imports and exports out of this country. let's add in cnbc contributor jimmy peeb. we focus so much on the fiscal cliff. if we shut down 14 or 15 of the biggest ports in america, that could do much more harm than any fiscal escarpment. >> it could do much more harm more quickly. the fiscal
and i didn't vote to raise your taxes. as simplistic as that is, i think it's true so i think they let us go over and then cut the taxes and they undo all the good the cliff could actually do. >> but there's no real spending cuts. that's part of the problem. it's all talk. there's no real cuts in the cliff. >> you guys sound like congress. keep on arguing behind the scenes. enjoy yourselves. thank you so much, michael. peter, you're sticking around. >>> meantime, the fiscal...
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the whole conversation has been about tax hikes. i mean, you can't -- you're talking about how many tax hikes and who is going to be involved, but we really need to address the spending issue. >> dan greenhouse, do you agree? >> more or less. i'll take issue with what mandy just said about cutting austerity. we know there's going to be a fiscal contraction next year. nothing in what these guys agree upon will add to the level of austerity. the types of things that we're talking about, adjusting the cpi used to compute social security benefits down the road, those types of things are not real austerity, and so we really shouldn't be worried about that in terms of 2013. >> so you see growth, dan? you see the stock market moving up? you see a year that will still be positive for us in all of those respects, even if we do have, for example, massive spending cuts and tax hikes, that's what you're seeing? >> i take issue with the word massive, and i'm sure rick will as well. we think next year will be okay in of everything, but, again, to
the whole conversation has been about tax hikes. i mean, you can't -- you're talking about how many tax hikes and who is going to be involved, but we really need to address the spending issue. >> dan greenhouse, do you agree? >> more or less. i'll take issue with what mandy just said about cutting austerity. we know there's going to be a fiscal contraction next year. nothing in what these guys agree upon will add to the level of austerity. the types of things that we're talking...
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there's brand-new 3.9% medicare tax on high wage earners and a tax for wealthy donations. primarily between house republicans and the obama white house in the senate. but a survey done by northern trust of high net worth individuals' priorities found 44% saying their top priority for the country is economic growth and reducing unemployment versus 19% for reducing the federal budget deficit. another 15% said they wanted to see an end to gridlock. good luck. now, as far as their own wealth preservation strategies. that same survey found high net worth persons, those with $5 million or more in assets, obviously much more proactive in anticipating the tax consequences of going over the cliff than those with $1 million or less in assets. simon? >> okay, hampton, busy days. hampton pearson there in washington. straight ahead, a looming port strike that could cost the u.s. economy billions of dollars. the mayor of houston will join us live to tell us how this strike will affect her cities and cities right along the east coast. "squawk on the street" will be right back. off vietna
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because then obama gets the tax increase that he wanted, right? the republicans aren't seen by their constituency of giving into the tax increase and then they start from there, anew, and you can bring it down to the middle class tax cut. so, why isn't that the way it's going to be playing out and the meeting by the house on sunday, just optic. obama coming back, just optics. >> well, like i said a couple of minutes ago, it's the relief rally versus the negative impact of the fiscal cliff. in other words, the recession their forces in the cliff, so, you picture two, like a sea change. the relief rally where it's going to happen, when we get a deal. then you have the recession their forces of the cliff right after that, so, you can see those two forces. i've been looking -- >> stocks can trade up during a recession. not when you're going into it. as you see going out of it. >> but it's still $130 billion of new taxes that are hitting the economy. maybe 150. i'm looking at two-month vices future versus the eight-month and i've been tracking it. trac
because then obama gets the tax increase that he wanted, right? the republicans aren't seen by their constituency of giving into the tax increase and then they start from there, anew, and you can bring it down to the middle class tax cut. so, why isn't that the way it's going to be playing out and the meeting by the house on sunday, just optic. obama coming back, just optics. >> well, like i said a couple of minutes ago, it's the relief rally versus the negative impact of the fiscal...
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taxes go up, then you go the republicans in position where they're getting the lower taxes. then patti murray. >> i just hope that people are paying attention that what we are seeing is basically the best world for politicians, they put off the and then everybody is going to pretend, oh, it's something happened. and nobody in the meantime is representing the interest of the american people. you know, we've got both parties in a position to negotiate this is what we want, this is what we elected and they're doing everything they can to not pay attention to that and to go to their separate corners and to be separate and to pretend that their way is not the only way. >> and it could result in people being called into, like, their supervisor's offices and their supervisor goes, i'm sorry, people are actually losing jobs because of this. >> but is there what the people voted for? there are some that think this is what the president voted for. >> how can you think that the american people didn't vote for this? >> let me get to these economical reports. there are a number on today'
taxes go up, then you go the republicans in position where they're getting the lower taxes. then patti murray. >> i just hope that people are paying attention that what we are seeing is basically the best world for politicians, they put off the and then everybody is going to pretend, oh, it's something happened. and nobody in the meantime is representing the interest of the american people. you know, we've got both parties in a position to negotiate this is what we want, this is what we...
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the obama tax cuts. i'm calling it first. the obama tax cuts. he's going to write a tax cut bill, send it up to the hill, and they're going to pass it. >> expires on january 2nd. >> do we make them permanent, jimmy? 98% of them will be made permanent? >> i hope not. that is not the job of the government. the government's job is to raise taxes and to lower taxes when our economy needs it. that's what the senate does. john breaux, former senator john breaux from louisiana sat on the floor during the 2001 tax bill and said our job is to raise taxes when they need to be raised and lower them when they need to be lowered. that's the senate and the house's job. >> but, one man's -- is another man's -- if you look at the laugher curve you don't know when to raise and when to lower at this point. >> president obama kept bush's taxes in for two years. >> i know. >> but suddenly, you know, democrats like you love the 98%, and you hate the 2%. it's very weird. >> tell him, joe. >> don't hate the 2%. i'm not a self-
the obama tax cuts. i'm calling it first. the obama tax cuts. he's going to write a tax cut bill, send it up to the hill, and they're going to pass it. >> expires on january 2nd. >> do we make them permanent, jimmy? 98% of them will be made permanent? >> i hope not. that is not the job of the government. the government's job is to raise taxes and to lower taxes when our economy needs it. that's what the senate does. john breaux, former senator john breaux from louisiana sat on...
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the rating agencies understand voting for a tax decrease is easier than tax increase. if this drags on to late january, the president is talking about using the inauguration as a forum to bash republicans, if this goes into february, they could come out irrespective of a deal going forward, aaa doesn't act like this. >> i think it's a problem if -- first of all, we don't get there. then there are down grades. that begins to sit in on corporate holdings. >> this is broader than insurance, major markets and holders. >> insurance is such a huge holder of corporate and municipal debt. the other thing, i think is interesting, i heard from the governor, i heard a statistic that rocked me back when i heard it, said in 2012, the first person to live to be 150 years old was born. think about the implications for that around annuities, social security, the medicare system. a lot of this is really not around poor management. i heard people saying it's been mismanaged. people are living so much longer than we ever expected. the retime ages set in 1800s. that is to a large degree w
the rating agencies understand voting for a tax decrease is easier than tax increase. if this drags on to late january, the president is talking about using the inauguration as a forum to bash republicans, if this goes into february, they could come out irrespective of a deal going forward, aaa doesn't act like this. >> i think it's a problem if -- first of all, we don't get there. then there are down grades. that begins to sit in on corporate holdings. >> this is broader than...